Feds asking for healthcare worker flu shot advice

I agree that it should be mandatory for all healthcare workers. However, until there is a federal mandate for influenza vaccines among healthcare workers, many organizations will not choose to fight that battle with their employees. We have an 85% acceptance rate and would be really hard pressed, without a federal mandate, to achieve 90%.

I do not think anyone should be mandated to get the flu shot. I’ve never gotten the flu shot and have never gotten the flu neither have any of my children.

Absolutely NOT. Flu shots are not safe, even though the government claims that they are. The government denies that what happened to her can even happen yet they have paid out millions of dollars in claims. Three years ago my mother got a seasonal flu shot and she is completely paralyzed to the point where she can’t even sit up or feed herself. She was only 65 and perfectly healthy. Her neurologists said they had seen the same reaction MANY times before. This is the link to her video. Please watch it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRcZZROphLM

ABSOLUTELY NOT! Flu shots are not effective and many people such as myself have reactions. It is a human right to be in charge of your own body and dictate what goes into it. No one should be forced to put things into their bodies to keep their jobs. I am a health care professional and washing hands is more effective than getting the flu shot. Lets stick to good hand washing. Thank you

I’m less inclined to trust the safety of being around a freshly vaccinated person than an unvaccinated person. Vaccinated people shed some of the diseases they are vaccinated against, and I won’t even get into the fact that several of them get sick from the vaccine, especially the one for the flu. Freshly vaccinated healthcare workers are the ones who should be wearing masks. Unvaccinated people are not sick by nature. If they’re sick, you’ll know, and you can simply give them sick leave. They’re not walking around constantly spreading diseases. That notion is simply absurd and no one with half a brain would believe it.

Besides, you can’t argue that vaccines are insufficiently effective to work in those who get them when you’re trying to make us believe in herd immunity. If they’re not 100% effective in those injected with them, why do you continue to lie to use about herd immunity being based in reality? Thing about it. The flu shot has been shown to be what? 60% effective at best? Even if 100% of people get them, that means only 60% may not get the flu. Herd immunity, according to you, means 90% of people are protected, right? Your vaccine is apparently not even effective enough to guarantee herd immunity when everyone is injected. Why then would you force this poison on people? Are you still pretending to protect the people, or are you protecting the financial incentives passed between the pharmaceutical companies and the CDC? Let’s just put it all on the table here.

Don’t force people to accept poison for my sake. I will not be the one to blame when they become sick and/or disabled.

I’ve spent most of my childhood sick and I’m stronger for it today. My husband has been vaccinated too much because he’s ex-military and he gets everything that passes by. I don’t, but even when I do sometimes get sick, it lasts about 25% as long as it does for him, and I don’t suffer whereas he claims to. Who is faring better there? The vaccinated or the unvaccinated person? Our child is completely unvaccinated and never gets sick. She may have a fever for five minutes, a runny nose here and there, but she never seems to ‘come down’ with anything. Nothing keeps her down. She has an amazing immune system. She’s just like my completely unvaccinated cousins. They were more healthy than I was.

The yellow fever vaccine caused me to get bronchitis which worsened to asthmatic bronchitis, and finally asthma. I lost two weeks of school which is interesting when you consider that the reason for creating vaccines was to keep kids from getting sick so their parents wouldn’t have to stay home with them and spend time away from work. Vaccines were supposed to positively impact the economy and had nothing to do with the actual welfare of the children essentially being tested on.

So no thanks. Tell the pharmaceutical companies to keep their vaccines, and if a healthcare worker says no, it’s their body. Don’t let the pharmaceutical companies rape them for profit, and let’s stop feeding people the crap that vaccines are the new messiah. I’m sick of hearing it.

What is the point of a yearly shot that only protects against 2 or 3 strains? Making it mandated is taking away freedom…our freedom to make our own decisions on what enters our bodies.

This should absolutely not be a mandate. the flue shot is ineffective, and the adjunct ingredients pose serious health risks. If the government dares to require me to inject poison into my body, I, and many other nurses, will leave the field for good, making the nursing shortage even worse.

as an MD in a public health masters, I’ve read the third party studies and the flu shot is not only ineffective, it is problematic. the formaldehyde and mercury can cross into the blood brain barrier due to it’s effect on tight junctions. It can also leave the lymphocytes sluggish for weeks to months and that is counter productive.
It also prevents cross reactivity to other strains, again counter productive.
VItamin D in high enough doses and hand washing is safe and effective.
should not mandate something that has risk of harm and little if any benefit;

We need to ask what exactly is motivating the government to mandate a vaccine that has been found to be largely ineffective by the Cochrane Collaboration, an international not-for-profit organization providing up-to-date information about the effects of health care. The Cochrane Institute has compiled data from 40 flu seasons worldwide. and they have “concluded from the studies that there is no clear evidence to suggest that the flu jab offers any more protection than cheaper, hygiene-based methods such as hand-washing.”

Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism http://www.ageofautism.com/

We’re not told here that neither the doctor nor the vaccine maker is liable for any adverse reactions to a vaccine. Injured parties have to instead go through a long and arduous process called Vaccine Court where claimants are up against government lawyers defending a government program using government money. Few people ever get their day in court.

Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism http://www.ageofautism.com/

This is absurd. NO ONE should be mandated to receive ANY vaccine. EVER.

We have the right to decide what goes into our bodies, and which risk is greater- that of getting a disease, or that of having an adverse reaction to a vaccine. Why should those in the health field be denied that right?

The flu vaccine is notoriously ineffective, as several have already pointed out. Most people who do the research, rather than just believing what they’re told, decide that the risk isn’t worth any benefit there may be.

People need to inform themselves.
See the book, Vaccine Epidemic http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Epidemic-Corporate-Coercive-Government/dp/1616082720 and the National Vaccine Information Center http://www.nvic.org/.

There are experts on both sides.
Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism http://www.ageofautism.com/

I disagree that flu shots (or any vaccines for that matter) should be mandated for healthcare workers (or for the general public!). It’s my body and I want my rights protected. There is as much information showing vaccines damage health as there is supposedly documenting their efficacy. Mandated vaccines in healthcare scenarios already prevent me from being able to volunteer in a hospital in the state of Maine because I choose not to vaccinate. Our immune systems are not designed to function properly with intramuscular injection – in fact, our immune systems require being challenged from time to time wiht viruses in order to evolve and remain healthy. We go to great lengths to actually destroy our bodies’ abilities to adapt and respond to pathogens. So-called “modern” society has come to a point where there is supposed to be a pill for or shot for everything. We fear illness and death and are willing to spend seven times more than any other country to live longer with greater chronic disease – at a devastating cost. Just say “NO” to vaccines. Say “YES” to whole non-GMO foods, health diet, and REST when weakened or sickened. I want to maintain our right to honor the sanctity of the human body and right to choose what level of healthcare we deem best for ourselves. Period.

Absolutely not! No one should be forced to subject themselves or their families to the current poison laced and poorly tested vaccines that are perpetrated on the unsuspecting masses. Not OK to use the US populations as guinea pigs for the purpose of big business. Until there is a total over haul of this medical practice that is less than effective, less toxic substances used in the manufacturing and the goal redirected to protect humanity not line the pockets of the share holders of big pharma, I say NO!

Health care workers, and all people, should decide for themselves whether they should get this vaccine. There are risks involved with all vaccine that is why informed choice is a must!

Everyone, whether a healthcare work or not should have the right to choose what goes in to their body! There are real risks involved with vaccines. Everyone deserves a right to true informed consent. I don’t feel the flu shot or any shot should ever be mandated.

Under NO circumstances should an individual be mandated to receive any vaccines!

Vaccination should be an individual CHOICE, not mandated by anyone!! Are we not a free country? Is this country becoming a puppet of drug companies? I will support my right to chose. No one will force that upon me!!

There is no clear evidence showing efficacy of the flu vaccine. It is of great concern to me that it is pushed so greatly (especially on pregnant women), especially when we don’t know what the long term effects of this might be. How can something that is not proven effective & is filled with toxins be mandated? It is unfortunate, but we have to wonder what the government’s true motivation for this push is.

Why don’t we think about improving our diets and getting a little exercise to make our bodies healthier and more resilient?

Why should HCWs have fewer rights than patients, especially when they become the patient?

ABSOLUTELY NOT! Flu shots are not effective and many people have reactions. It is a human right to be in charge of your own body and dictate what goes into it. No one should be forced to put poison into their bodies to keep their jobs. I am a health care professional and washing hands is more effective than getting the flu shot. Educating health care workers to adopt a more whole food diet, practice lifestyle activities such as exercise and proper rest and supplementing with Vitamin D3 will all boost their natural immunities without the toxic overload vaccines have to offer. If the government dares to require me to inject poison into my body, I, and many other nurses, will leave the field for good. Do we no longer live in a free country where we have the right to refuse medical treatment just to keep our jobs? Even our patients have the right to refuse treatment.

My body….MY CHOISE

If a healthcare worker has an adverse reaction to the vaccine, do they sue OSHA? Health care workers are citizens, and deserve the right to choose what is best for them. You cannot legislate health.

Absolutely not. The last I checked, this is a free country, and people were allowed to do their own research and do a risk/benefit analysis for themselves. Given that the flu vaccine effectiveness changes from year to year, while the risk of adverse reactions remains constant (see packaging insert re; preservatives, like mercury and formaldehyde), I don’t understand why a federal mandate would be appropriate. A mandate requiring people to have the shot regardless of the associated risks is a violation of their constitutional rights (particularly given that this is a federal mandate attempting to control the state sale of a vaccine) without there being a valid reason – ie; a pandemic or a localized outbreak, for which the vaccine would be effective.

NO! They cause all sorts of immune problems and these shots aren’t effective as we are being told. If you read the CDC’s own literature it shows that if 100 people are vaccinated against the flu, only 1.5 will avoid getting the flu. Any data suggesting other results are a blatant lie. Do your research and find out why aluminum and various vaccine ingredients cause devastating side effects over time.

NO! No one should be forced to get toxins injected into their bodies.

I prefer to build my immunities without this shot. The one time I received it at work, I was asked if I was allergic to eggs and feathers and no mention of a known , ethylmercury. There was no disclosure either. Rhode Island is one of those backward States that doesn’t disclose this fact. I was given no choice to have it with, or without. Since my initial shot I have researched for years and read hundreds of scientific documents that conclusively validate Why not to vaccinate. Big Pharma using me or my children as we All have “Allergic to Mercury” on our medical records. I will never agree to a mandate for this shot. If they want to make money, vaccinate the Sex Offenders and take away their impulse. Lots of money there.

Absolutely not! I am an occupational therapist who works in a large hospital that is considering mandating the flu vaccine next year. Although I love my job and have been at this hospital for 10 years, I will not allow someone else tell me what I have to put into my body. Flu vaccines contain very harmful ingredients and have very little efficacy. This is supposed the be the USA, land of liberty, freedom of choice, yet the government is going to take a basic right away from me? I don’t think so! This is all just a big scheme by Big Pharma to bring in more $ as if they don’t have billions already.

NOPE! The flu shot is not save for everyone. Until it is absolutely 100% safe, then no way.

Too many people contract Guillain-Barre syndrome after their jabs.

I have NEVER had a flu shot and I have NEVER had the flu! Fancy that!

No-one should be required to have flu or any other vaccines if they don’t want to. It’s risky and the flu shots don’t work anyways. Full of toxic ingredients! I do not eve get the flu shot, nor do my children, and we never have the flu. Imagine that!

There’s no clear evidence that they work. The vaccines are NOT tested,nor, given the toxic ingredients, are they proven safe. Everyone should be educated in ways to take care of themselves including basic hygiene and vitamin D. I don’t ever get the flu shot for myself or my family and we have never had the flu. Like others, it bothers me to know that the government and all of it’s departments are taking away people’s freedom.It SHOULD NOT BE MANDATED.

This is ridiculous!!! Do you have any idea how many people I know that get that disgusting shot and still end up with the flu? My friend had the H1N1 vax and I ended up catching it from her when she came down with it! In fact, she gave up the flu shot for herself and her family this year because she said they have gotten the flu every year despite the shot. The gov’t is acting as if the shot actually works! Why not tell them to boost their Vitamin D intake during flu season, as well as take elderberry syrup, some omega 3 and visit a chiropractor regularly! Oh, right. Because that wouldn’t make them any more money!

Let’s face it, not everyone is interested in injecting themselves with vaccines that are dangerous, maybe some of us are healthier without them.If you and your family feel that you need this stuff injected into you feel free, but leave the rest of us alone, we will take our chances, just as we have for thousands of years before the first vaccine was marketed.

You are trying to break the very “back bone” of our health care system ( maybe that is your intention?) by requiring health care workers to be INJECTED, against their WILL, with an unknown toxin. Last I knew, we lived in the UNITED STATES of AMERICA! Freedom of CHOICE. I’ve been an RN for 40 years and NEVER will I allow this. You have your priorities all wrong. It saddens me our world has come to this……big PHARMA in charge…….doctors in tow.

No.

Medical decision?

2 words: Informed Consent.

Flu vaccines should NOT be mandated. No vaccine should be mandated. It is not the government’s role to decide who receives medical interventions and the flu vaccine has no proven efficacy. This is a violation of our rights for the profit of vaccine manufacturers.

No. I don’t need the government to make health decisions for me. This is not for the greater good, as it will cause more harm in terms of adverse affects, not to mention the violation on personal rights.

Sadly, it was mandated in our hospital, last year. Legislation is sorely lacking to protect us healthcare workers. We need to have a philosophical objection waiver. I have invested my life,& $$$ to obtain an MSN. If I don’t roll up my sleeve, I shall be terminated soon. My career ended. What choice do I have? What about my rights?
Mandatory vaccination is abhorrent. Apparently, we do not live in a free society. We are ruled by big pharma and uneducated government officials. (Who often have a financial conflict of interest in drug companies…)
Hand washing and adequate Vit D3 supplementation. The University of TO study & others have proved this unequivocally…..
PLEASE stop this insanity.

Allow choice.

Incidentally…. did anyone notice that the NVAC committee recommending this has a person from the Novartis drug co on there…. gee no conflict of interest there eh?

It is wrong
It is ineffective
It doesn’t actually reduce deaths
It actually carries unacceptable risks
It violates individual rights
It benefits bigPHARMA- pills and shots aren’t the answer for everything
It ignores more effective ways of preventing flu
It regularly violates informed consent
It is wrong!

I hope OSHA is getting the message, looking at this comment stream, there is a HUGE number of people who don’t accept the premise/intent of flu vaccine.

See Dr Mercola
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/18/do-flu-shots-work-ask-a-vaccine-manufacturer.aspx

As a nurse I have been refusing vaccine for the past 5yrs an am healthier than the nurses that take it year after year. I rarely take off work for sick time(rarely sick) while my counter-part nurses that took the vaccine do take sick time off. ONE SIZE DOSE NO FIT ALL! Making it mandatory will probably end up w/nurses & doctors leaving the field. This will create a nurse/doctor shortages. It is my body and I am responsible for it!
There is NOT one single evidence that vaccines keep people from getting sick. It really does the opposite.
But there is study after study showing that vaccines are giving us diseases.

GOOD HEALTH IS NOT AT THE TIP OF A NEEDLE!
GOOD HEALTH is eating right, taking vitamins, exercising. It is all natural w/NO SIDE EFFECTS. Vitamin D does so many things to keep you healthy.

Vaccines are full of toxins, mercury, carcinogen, Triton X100, Polysorbate 80. Which are causing cancer, allergies, dementia, etc., many illness that could have been prevented. Vaccines suppress the immune system making us more sick.

As of Sept 2011, Half the U.S. children suffer from chronic disease and disorders and 21% are developmentally disable. Do we want to continue this trend? USA children are growing up to be sicker than when I grew up in the 60s. We’re not advancing in the healthcare system if our own children are more sick than we are.

Health care workers should have the RIGHT to choose what is injected into their body. Health care workers should not be fired for not getting the flu shot. Informed consent needs to be advise on all medical procedures that can cause serious adverse reactions. Every nurse has the Moral Right to Conscientious, Philosophical and Personal Belief Exemption to Vaccination as every American person does. CDC, Gov’t need to stop forcing people how to live their lives.

How toxic and dangerous is the Flu shot
and how fast can the Flu vaccine affect your brain and your ability to remember?
Here is an adverse reaction that was reported to NVIC on 1990-07-12
“Pt became confused within a minute or two /p receiving Influenza Virus Vaccine. He became disoriented & could not remember the route to his home. Symptoms slowly abated within 3 days.”

One Flu shot a year 5 years in a row will increase chances of Alzheimer’s by X10 FOLD. WOW! It is criminal that now Babies at 6 months old are getting this TOXIC vaccine.

Google this (Toxic Over Load Children Vaccinated To Extreme )

Never have they done studies of the cumulative effects of vaccine ingredients and some of the genetic materials is proven to pass to generation and they keep adding more vaccine to the mix.
Robert/wakeupgethealthydotcom

Geeeez…I hope all you people who feel so strongly about not mandating flu shots for healthcare workers actually submit comments to the US Department of Health and Human Services as explained in the post above.

I just asked in this post if this activity on the part HSS makes mandatory flu shots more likely.

Make no mistake about it, I like your visiting this blog site, but your comments here won’t make a bit of difference to the HSS.

Thank you Mr. Lahoda,

EVERYONE, thanks for commenting here. But please follow the directions above and duplicate your comments so they will have an impact. OSHA isn’t making this call. The VBAC committee is.

To answer your question Mr. Lahoda, yes. I think it does make it more likely. I’m involved on a multi state and national level and I’m already seeing this. The question is, will those who contact me and my organization who are against such policy actually stand up and fight? I don’t know the answer to that one. I just know it is wrong to tie vaccination to employment, no matter the circumstance. I hope OSHA, as an OCCUPATIONAL safety organization as opposed to a PATIENT safety organization will stand by employees. You allow for signing a waiver for Hep B vaccine, why not flu vaccine?

I am a Registered Nurse working in a County Hospital Intensive Care Unit.   I implore you to carefully reconsider any recommendation which encourages employers to require the flu shot as a condition of employment with only medical exemptions.  The flu vaccine itself is problematic due to shifting strains, changing virulence of the virus and the challenge of predicting the next year’s predominant strains. The efficacy of influenza vaccine can vary from ineffective on non- matched years to as high as perhaps 80 or 90% on well matched years. The major studies that are cited by employers indicating that vaccinating health care workers reduces illness and death in elderly patients have been reviewed by the Cochrane Collaboration. The Cochrane Collaboration reanalyzed the data presented and found the results to be quite different than the conclusions the authors themselves drew. This fact in itself leads one to believe that further, unbiased research must be conducted before any mandate can be made.
The goal of controlling infectious disease must be kept in mind. Mandating a variable and problematic vaccine will undermine the faith/ trust the people have in their governing agencies. The thought that HCWs are selfish and putting their own fears/beliefs above the safety of the patient is pathetic and transparent, most HCWs are fully vaccinated and often have received non-mandatory vaccines in addition to mandatory ones. The Flu vaccine however cannot be grouped with the highly effective vaccines against single strain viruses. HCWs are a group of highly experienced and educated people; while you may win this single battle the damage that will follow will far outweigh any potential good. Consider how the general public will respond when the HCW in their circle of family /friends speaks about being forced to receive an unwanted vaccine. That same HCW that may have never discussed the vaccine before will now talk. Many times the family, church or nurse friend’s opinion is held in higher regard then that of the CDC or FDA.
On a personal note; I have the following questions; which as of yet, no one has been able to answer.
1)      I do not get insurance or paid sick days where I work, so IF I take the shot that they are telling me too and I was one of those very few people that have an adverse reaction, who would be responsible for the lost wages and medical bills? If it is the hospital or the government, good, I will take the shot, if it is me then I cannot take the shot because If I was to get sick and have to take several weeks of work I would lose my home. I take responsibility to keep my body healthy and , as far as I can remember, not had a Sick Day in the last 5 years.
2)      Why is it that the number of influenza vaccines administered has increased significantly over the last decade yet the number of confirmed deaths from influenza has not trended downward?
3)      Why is it that on the years when the influenza vaccine is a complete mismatch that there is not a spike the number of confirmed influenza deaths? According to the CDC website 1997-1998 was a very low match between the circulating flu virus and the vaccines, confirmed deaths those years where 720 and 1724. Low matches where identified in the following seasons; ‘92-‘93, ’03-‘04 and ’07-08’, confirmed deaths those years where as follows 1006, 1044, 1792, 1100, 411, ’08 deaths have not yet been published in the data set from the CDC that was used. On the good match years influenza deaths range from 257 deaths  in ‘01 to 2098 deaths in ‘90. The average number of deaths in good match years between 1990 and 2007 is 1171.8 deaths per year, the number of deaths during the same time frame in poor match years and very poor match years is 1113.8.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2011-2012.htm
http://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D16;jsessionid=17AA5CDFC0883FD7525471C82B8CD0D0
http://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D16;jsessionid=17AA5CDFC0883FD7525471C82B8CD0D0

With so much resistance to the flu shot among the general population as evidenced by the H1N1 fiasco and the adverse reactions to the pandemic shot among those foolish enough to get them, why isn’t there more emphasis on the importance of vitamin D? Many credible people will testify that the flu vaccine is worthless, even deadly. Shouldn’t our tax dollars be spent on more worthy causes? Are hospitals now going to accept medical liability for their employees who are coerced into taking the flu shot or risk losing their job? I don’t think so!
How many Americans ever dreamed of the day we would be living under medical tyranny – not many.

I was faced with the mandatory flu vaccine policy this past year and lost my job because I refused to get the flu shot, they even denied me a medical exemption.. How’s that for rights being violated?? WHERE IS OUR FREEDOM????

@publichealthgal, A former top vaccine maker from Merck has gone on record stating that, THE biggest reason that CANCER has become so prevalent IS because of vaccines. More and more people within the drug industry are admitting the truth that vaccines don’t work as intended and are causing ill health. There has been a lot of corruption within the industry, falsified studies etc.. I realize it is difficult to have one’s core beliefs shaken, but it’s disheartening to see the myth perpetuated that the flu vaccine is beneficial or that it prevents transmission of the flu for all. It is downright dangerous for some folks. If you have the flu virus within your body, regardless of “IF” you are showing symptoms of the flu, you can still pass it on to others. You can be a carrier of any virus without ever showing ill health. Therefore all a mandatory vaccine will do is make lots of money for the drug industry and destroy the health of those forced into it. Those that continue to believe that the flu vaccine is beneficial, are welcome to damage their own immune systems. Do not expect or force others to foolishly follow the false brainwashing of BIG Pharma. Please do your own research and you will find you have been misguided in thinking a magic pill (shot) will protect you. What protects you is keeping your immune system strong. Start by eating fresh non GMO foods which are complete with the full nutrients intact. Keep sugar to a minimum, keeping your beneficial gut bacteria strong, for 80% of your immune system is in your gut. Keep your Vitamin D 3 levels high, those with high vitamin D are protected against many ails. Keep a positive attitude, for what is the biggest truth of all is how your body is wired to heal itself, if only we would let it and stop assaulting ourselves with unnatural GMO food, viruses, and toxic chemicals. The normal route of viral transmission is via mouth, nose, or even ears. This gives the body time to start mounting it’s defense. When you inject chemicals, viruses, directly into the bloodstream, you are causing trouble. Go educate yourself without listening to those who are in it for the money.

For anyone on here who lost their job over this issue, please contact me at hapi.vaxinfo@gmail.com
We need you, there may be something you can do. If you were willing to lose your job over this, are you willing to stand up and fight for your rights and others rights? Please join us.

I know a little something about the flu. It killed my grandmother and while visiting her before she died nearly killed my dad and me. My father was hospitalized and I had pneumonia complications for 2 months. My lungs never completely recovered. I am the first one to roll up my sleeve with flu shots are available each year. I never want to go through another experience like that. Seeking “truth” on websites that play up conspiracy theories will not play for those who prefer science OR for those who have suffered first-hand from influenza.

@publichealthgirl
I am so sorry to hear of your experience. I am assuming that prior to you and your family’s heart breaking experience, none of you where vaccinated, I can understand how an experience like that could convince you to start getting the flu shot. Personally I would never try to convince you otherwise, each person must do their best to care for their own health.
The Cochrane Collaboration is not a “website that plays up conspiracy theories” it is rather one of the most prestigious and respected medical research review panels in the world.

REMEMBER, EVERYONE, OSHA isn’t dealing with this. Send your comments to the National Vaccine Advisory Committee (NVAC). Many of you might find it rather interesting that NVAC committee member Clement Lewin also works for Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics (they manufacture flu vaccine). Can you say “conflict of interest”??? Now that, I did find on the internet. But I’d bet a nickel it’s true! Be sure to point that out in your comments.

from link above:
Comments can be submitted electronically to Jennifer Gordon, National Vaccine Program Office at: nvpo@hhs.gov. By mail, comments can be sent to:

National Vaccine Program Office, US Dept. of Health and Human Services
Attn: Healthcare Personnel Influenza Vaccination c/o Jennifer Gordon
200 Independence Avenue, SW
Room 733-G.3
Washington, DC 20201

And just who identified vaccines as the greatest health measure? Certainly not the hundreds of thousands who have been seriously damaged, many even killed. Take a look at the charts of disease incidence and you will see that all illnesses were in sharp decline prior to mass vaccination programs. This was due to improved sanitation and hygiene. For example, whatever happened to scarlet fever? There was never a vaccine for it.

The 1950s mass vaccination of polio vaccine caused a spike in incidence. Further, it is now known that many current cancers contain Simian Virus 40 (SV40), the 40th monkey virus known to be in polio vaccine. There is growing alarm and recognition among some experts that polio vaccine causes cancer, not only in the directly vaccinated, but also in their offspring.

If EPA”s “acceptable” (not “safe”) limit for the amount of “ingestion” of mercury was applied to the amount of mercury in the “injection” of one flu shot, the recipient would have to weigh 550 lbs. There is no standard for the insane practice of injecting mercury directly into the blood stream where it crosses the blood brain barrier. An infant would have to weigh 225 lbs. to meet the “ingestion” limit. Now even fetuses are being poisoned through flu vaccines given to their pregnant mothers.

There are comments herein that continue to show blind belief in the myth of “herd immunity”. Please think about this: If vaccines worked, why would my child have to be vaccinated to protect your vaccinated child? Stop believing corporate lies. Do your own research.

Mandatory vaccines violate, at a fundamental level our constitutional rights. Additionally, vaccines have never been proven to be effective in warding off disease.

Vaccines are unscientific, unproven, toxic, dangerous and mostly untested. I cannot ethically, medically or humanly imagine how it would benefit my patients to hurt myself.

7 year old Vermont girl dies after flu vaccine. Gets sick then turns blue and dies, parents are waiting for autopsy results, but claim to know in their heart it was the routine flu shot received Dec. 2, 2011. Folks, this is just not acceptable, profit before people.

Everyone who gets the flue vaccine in our unit gets the flu anyway. It has always made me sick. It doesn’t seem to prevent the flu. I no longer get the shots and don’t get the flu. It contains mercury and other toxins. I opt not to be a part of the grand experiment.

According to a recent published study in the medical journal “The Lancet”… the flu shot only spares 1.5 people out of 100 from getting the flu.

To see how the lie of effectiveness is massaged see double u, double u, double u dot naturalnews dot com/033998_influenza_vaccines_effectiveness.

How many of you have actually sent comments where they need to go? You can simply email them, see below:

Comments can be submitted electronically to Jennifer Gordon, National Vaccine Program Office at: nvpo@hhs.gov. By mail, comments can be sent to:

National Vaccine Program Office, US Dept. of Health and Human Services
Attn: Healthcare Personnel Influenza Vaccination c/o Jennifer Gordon
200 Independence Avenue, SW
Room 733-G.3
Washington, DC 20201

While it is great to see so many RN’s on here tell the truth about flu vaccine and state that they are against it, you all need to realize that you are going to be forced, with no option of exemption, if you don’t stand up for your rights. You can’t count on the rest of us to keep you safe from forced vaccinations! PLEASE send your comments to the email above and use the address provided in your heading. The deadline is not until Tues, the 17th, 5pm EST, I got that straight from the NVPO. Request the comment period be extended! There has been less than one month and this policy impacts millions of healthcare workers. Even without it, we are seeing HCW’s be forced across the nation. Some have lost their jobs. Some have hired attorneys (which I highly encourage) because this is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Nonetheless, government will continue to do unconstitutional things unless you bloody stand up for your rights! Whining on OSHA’s blog is great, and I love reading these comments, but they aren’t going to change anything!

@Heather
Awesome! Keep it up. May I ask what state you are in? Only because I might be able to tie you and those physicians you are speaking of in with groups that are fighting this at the state and federal levels. You can email me personally at hapi.vaxinfo@gmail.com I’m with Health Advocacy in the Public Interest and we are and have been fighting this. Forced vaccination as a condition of employment is unconstitutional, but it is happening every day in every state.

@Healer,
No, the company making the vaccine would not be made financially liable for any negative outcome. They are protected by the act that authorized the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. Vaccine producers are protected from any liability. There is a tax on each dose of vaccine that funds the VICP which is very adversarial, almost no one qualifies and if they do, it takes years to get some piddly settlement. What a great industry, mandated products and no liability whatsoever. Which is even more reason employers should not require this medical procedure which carries risk as a condition of employment.

The deadline for comments has passed. It was a joke anyway as none of the real stakeholders knew about said proposal at the federal level. This is just one more example government gone awry, putting more money into industry which lobbies for their own interest and profit while naive/complacent organizations eat up such mandates like a “warm and fuzzy pie” for their own good at the expense of the peasantry worker bees. PURE IDIOCY.